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John's avatar

Wow! Thank you for the massive effort & data Kev, masterful work

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Saturdays on Couch's avatar

Love it, great stuff. Though hard to imagine him starting over Gordon for Howe (or Barnes as I continue to think Barnes is most underrated player on team)

I also think the passing thing is not picking up difficulty of pass very well here, he was often player with no one really ahead of him when he got the ball

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Kev Lawson's avatar

Yessir, he had a poor showing on his passing in our OBV model too last season too.

Personally not too worried about it, what I’ve seen on film isn’t bad just inconsistent.

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Kev Lawson's avatar

It’s literally an expected pass model, difficulty of the pass attempted is baked in to all of the passes he tried.

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Saturdays on Couch's avatar

I am always interested in judging CF passing play bc it’s so hard to do it imo . He had so many dangerous/deep completions it’s just hard for me to think he was actually below average at it if that makes sense. Something about just generating those opportunities is very rare

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Kev Lawson's avatar

100%, he completes a lot of passes near the box and on film, he’s pretty good. This is why I think it’s just inconsistency due to an experience gap rather than anything that will be with us for a long time.

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Saturdays on Couch's avatar

But compared to other CF is he still below average? I just have often had my own pass models and players with very few options in front of them almost always had lower scores than players who were playing 8 or CM or whatever even if a lot of their passes came from similar areas

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Kev Lawson's avatar

Yessir, he had a poor showing on his passing in our OBV model too last season too.

Personally not too worried about it, what I’ve seen on film isn’t bad just inconsistent.

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Saturdays on Couch's avatar

Which factors are included?

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Kev Lawson's avatar

https://youtu.be/cx3isK8fq4k?si=1AehFjiGewoYHxxY

It’s not perfect, but he’s undercooked for nearly every difficulty of pass.

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